One funny thing about Thor: Ragnarok as a Marvel movie:  It does suggest that sometimes you can be ruled by an evil overlord who, eh, is mostly fine?

mysharona1987:

whyarewealldepressed:

ameerkatofficial:

mysharona1987:

Loki: Everyone on Asgard is happy! Look, just ask them!

And, for once, he’s not lying: Everyone *is* happy. At worst, he just banished some people (Sif, Odin) and has been a bit inept. 

Most of the time Loki just sits around writing bad self-aggrandizing fan fiction and getting local actors to act it out.   

Nor does Grandmaster seem particularly cruel or tyrannical.  And the planet is chaotic, but still largely fine.

It’s a very troubling moral issue.

(Let me know if I got anything incorrect—kinda new to the marvel fandom, thnx ✌🏽)

The Grandmaster literally melted people who he didn’t like and put people in the ring to get torn limb from limb by the Hulk. He also liked to sell sentient beings like objects and/or collect them, also like objects.

Not the mention that it’s really the city he lives in that’s just a bit of a weird/futuristic Vegas. The glimpse we got of the rest of the planet was a bunch of desperate, hungry people reduced to ferality and cannibalism due to their dire poverty and lack of infrastructure.

So yeah, you’re completely valid about Loki—but just because the Grandmaster is played by a hapless and utterly ridiculous Jeff Goldblum, it doesn’t make him or his society less horrific.

If anything, it brings about larger issues of trusting apparently “silly”, “benign”, and “relatable” leaders without ever bothering to check on the effectiveness and consequences of their rule. It faces us with the lack of accountability for such personalities, showing how dangerous it is to “look the other way” just cuz the guy is a bit dopey.

I apologize for the rant, no disrespect and I see your point, and hell I probably misunderstood something, but Loki and Grandmaster did two completely different things with the societies under their rule and the planet Sakaar is anything but fine.

Not to mention how afraid Loki himself got when he was on the wrong end of the Grandmaster’s ‘favor’, and how easily he could be upset, as shown later when he mentions a public execution for Valkyrie/Loki when it was discovered that Thor escaped from the arena, with his ‘champion’, aka the Hulk, in tow. Loki was also afraid of angering the Grandmaster when Thor arrived on the planet, and was clearly shown as uncomfortable when Grandmaster alluded to anything sexual/explicit happening between them, even in front of Thor. His own brother, y’all. So, yeah, just because a bad ruler is played by a good/beloved actor, doesn’t mean that they’re not a bad ruler, still.

(For further examples, see ‘prisoners with jobs’ when referring to other, sentient beings he had captured and forced to fight, the execution stated above, and the way he gets his ‘fighters’, and so on and so forth.

A fair point.