Spring 1957. Magic hour, Fremont St. Half way down the street on the left, The Mint sign under construction. Kodachrome slide processed by Technicolor, VLV.
She gie’d her mammy a cake, she turnt intae a big bear, and her old yin tried tae dae her in. If that’s no pure mess, I don’t know wut is. Simples.
I’ll be honest, I got the first part of that, and the last part. But there is an entire sentence in the middle, that evidently is about her father trying to kill her mother, that sounds completely unintelligible to me. I assumed it was another language – potentially Gaelic but honestly, I’ve never heard that spoken before so I was taking a guess there.
I watched Brave and had absolutely no trouble understanding the entire movie so they’re definitely increasing the accent here for comedic value. But also it’s not just an accent – that second part of the first sentence isn’t understandable even transcribed.
I’m
a weird one though – I grew up in an asian country (not white), and
somehow despite multi-lingual parents and siblings (as is expected in
that asian country), my only and mother tongue is English.
It’s no Gaelic, it is however Scots 🙂
“Big Yin” is a common Glasgow term, and this is important, cause Billy Connolly who voiced her Da, is from Glasgow. It’s also the name was known by during his rise to fame, and is still affectionately known as “The Big Yin”.
It basically means “the big man” (note: a person does not need to be tall or large in stature to be called the big man, sometimes it can mean something else like “boss” or “strong personality”). So yea. Was a nice wee addition to her dialogue, though they’ve made her more Weegie for sure.
Are you saying “The Big Yin” could also translate into “Big Dick Energy”???
This is shite patter. The unintelligible accent patter whether it’s a heavy Indian accent, French accent, over the top German or Russian or whatever, it’s completely shite patter.
The BBC had a section asking Scottish people if they understood her accent. They literally were asking Scottish people if they understood Scots.
Get in the fucking sea.
BBC Scotland only did that because it’s heavily populated by people who were sent for elocution lessons to get rid of their accents by their parents, who were afflicted by the Scottish cringe.
The British establishment, as represented by BBC Scotland are at war with Scottish culture, over 300 years they’ve managed to severely curtail the use of Scots Gaelic, they already deride any who speaks Scots as unintelligent.
Here’s an anecdote from my childhood: I hail from Falkirk, born into a traditional working class family who speak predominantly broad Scots. When I started school my teacher told me to stop speaking like that, it’s slang, it’s not proper English I won’t speak to you or listen to you until you speak properly! This upset me, but of course I changed the way I spoke and I began to hate the way my parents and grandparents spoke. Fast forward three years, January 1994, and we’re handed out these sheets by our teacher that have lines of poetry, or so we’re told because I couldn’t make head nor tail of what was written on this sheet. She told us these were written by a very famous Scottish poet (I didn’t realise until this point we were actually Scottish, I thought we were British or English because everything, media, press was so British/English centred). She told us to learn these words and we would be expected to read these at a special school assembly. I was terrified. I’ve never been great with public speaking and I didn’t really fancy making a fool of myself in front of older pupils.
The night before the assembly, my Nan found me at the back of the sofa with this sheet, crying because I just couldn’t understand it. I told my Nan everything, she took the sheet off me and she read it aloud in Scots, not in Queens English and it made sense, I understood it, but I said
“I can’t read it like that!”
“How no?”
“Because that’s slang, not English”
My Nan was livid, she was raging about what they teach at that bloody school. It was my Nan that taught me to love my native tongue and the culture that goes with it, not the education system.
Not only did we have to read poems to the rest of the school but we had to write an essay on Burns and our experiences of his poems. I was quite honest about how big a struggle it was to disypher these poems and surprisingly got an A .
My point is, when I see the BBC Scotsplaining it reminds me of this time. We in Scotland live under a hail of English/British media and reference, we’re always the other, even in our own wee bit hill and Glen!
PREACH
If you can’t atleast take a guess at the slang words then sorry man that’s on you but she’s still speaking English, just in a different accent and this is something that scottish people get made of for a lot
It’s condescending af when you see scottish people on your own national news or whatever with fucking subtitles
Just a heads up, she’s speaking Scots, not English. The issue comes that Scots are continually portrayed as ‘Brutish’ to the point that Merida wouldn’t tone it down.
And for those who say ‘well she’s Scottish and from Celtic Scotland where they wouldn’t have spoken English’, it’s not like they’ve made Belle speak French or whatever.
She isn’t speaking Scots, she’s speaking Scottish English with Scots phrases thrown in.
I don’t understand why so many people are conflating Scots with Scottish English; I literally do not understand Scots when written or spoken but I speak Scottish English every day.
*shrug* I honestly havent listened yet because I’m on a bus rn
I hate it when white women like to act like they’re not white when they claim to be Jewish. Ummm, you’re white, and being Jewish doesn’t hide your white privilege, it actually makes you more privilege. Being Jewish doesn’t make you a Women of Colour when most Jews are BEYOND white passing. Jews in the United States and Europe are FAR overrepresented in banking, the media, the justice system, government, ect. Jews also played a huge role in the slave trade where most of the slave ships were Jewish owned. If anything being Jewish is a privilege which has historically and still is favoring their own and benefiting off the struggles of People of Colour which has aided white supremacy. If you’re jewish and want to aid people of colour in their struggles and rape, check your privilege and call out people you know for their racism, sexism, misogyny, ect.
Sit. Your. Sorry. Ass. Down.
As a blonde, blue-eyed Jew with an Anglo last name living in metropolitan America I have undeniable white passing/white privilege. But my Jewish friends with dark curly hair, “swarthy” skin, and “Semitic” noses? My friends with last names like Weber and Katz and Rosen? They don’t pass in America, let alone in Europe (and I feel 100% confident in stating that you know jack-all about how Europeans view race, but spoiler alert: Jews definitely don’t make the white people shortlist there, light skinned or not). Ever notice how white supremacist groups always include Jews on their list of “enemies of the white race?” Or how the place where Jews are really overrepresented is in hate crime victim statistics? Millennia of rape and forced assimilation in diaspora may have lightened some of our skins (fun fact: many Jews, including many Ashkenazim, are people of color), but neither we nor white Gentiles have forgotten that our ethnicity and culture stem from the Levant.
It is absolutely mindblowing that you are using antisemitic falsehoods to deny that antisemitism exists. Far from controlling the slave trade, Jews were in fact barred by law from even entering many of the countries involved in the trade and were barred from or limited in engaging in international trade venues by several others. That is a canard heavily promoted in the black community by black antisemitic groups in the 90s, and has been utterly discredited by historians. And you’re going to pull out that antisemitic “Jews control the media, banks, and government!!!!!11!” bullshit, too? Really? Put down the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and read up on the “model minority” myth–and while you’re at it, take a lookat how wellfinancial successhas shielded Jewsfrom marginalizationand violencein the past.
Were Jews often used post-Civil War as racial go-betweens and tools of white oppression against the black community? Yes, and it’s fucking shameful…but when those Jewish minstrel performers, shop owners, and slumlords went home in the evenings, it was to Jewish-only communities. Not because we chose to live there, but because white Gentiles didn’t accept us in their neighborhoods. We were “white” enough to do the jobs white people didn’t want to dirty their hands with, but not white enough to live with or go to social clubs with, God forbid. The entire reason colleges began requiring interviews and essays from admission applicants was to limit the number of Jews on campus, because we’re just so fucking privileged to be Jewish. The U.S. sent Jewish asylum-seekers and refugees fleeing the Holocaust back to Europe and refused to lift the immigration quota on Jews during WWII because it didn’t want any more white people.
Whiteness/white-passingness is a privilege (and yes, we Jews who have it need to be conscious of it). But Jewishness is NOT A PRIVILEGE, least of all “historically.” We look out for “our own” because Gentiles–white or otherwise–sure as fuck won’t.
She gie’d her mammy a cake, she turnt intae a big bear, and her old yin tried tae dae her in. If that’s no pure mess, I don’t know wut is. Simples.
I’ll be honest, I got the first part of that, and the last part. But there is an entire sentence in the middle, that evidently is about her father trying to kill her mother, that sounds completely unintelligible to me. I assumed it was another language – potentially Gaelic but honestly, I’ve never heard that spoken before so I was taking a guess there.
I watched Brave and had absolutely no trouble understanding the entire movie so they’re definitely increasing the accent here for comedic value. But also it’s not just an accent – that second part of the first sentence isn’t understandable even transcribed.
I’m
a weird one though – I grew up in an asian country (not white), and
somehow despite multi-lingual parents and siblings (as is expected in
that asian country), my only and mother tongue is English.
It’s no Gaelic, it is however Scots 🙂
“Big Yin” is a common Glasgow term, and this is important, cause Billy Connolly who voiced her Da, is from Glasgow. It’s also the name was known by during his rise to fame, and is still affectionately known as “The Big Yin”.
It basically means “the big man” (note: a person does not need to be tall or large in stature to be called the big man, sometimes it can mean something else like “boss” or “strong personality”). So yea. Was a nice wee addition to her dialogue, though they’ve made her more Weegie for sure.
Are you saying “The Big Yin” could also translate into “Big Dick Energy”???
This is shite patter. The unintelligible accent patter whether it’s a heavy Indian accent, French accent, over the top German or Russian or whatever, it’s completely shite patter.
The BBC had a section asking Scottish people if they understood her accent. They literally were asking Scottish people if they understood Scots.
Get in the fucking sea.
BBC Scotland only did that because it’s heavily populated by people who were sent for elocution lessons to get rid of their accents by their parents, who were afflicted by the Scottish cringe.
The British establishment, as represented by BBC Scotland are at war with Scottish culture, over 300 years they’ve managed to severely curtail the use of Scots Gaelic, they already deride any who speaks Scots as unintelligent.
Here’s an anecdote from my childhood: I hail from Falkirk, born into a traditional working class family who speak predominantly broad Scots. When I started school my teacher told me to stop speaking like that, it’s slang, it’s not proper English I won’t speak to you or listen to you until you speak properly! This upset me, but of course I changed the way I spoke and I began to hate the way my parents and grandparents spoke. Fast forward three years, January 1994, and we’re handed out these sheets by our teacher that have lines of poetry, or so we’re told because I couldn’t make head nor tail of what was written on this sheet. She told us these were written by a very famous Scottish poet (I didn’t realise until this point we were actually Scottish, I thought we were British or English because everything, media, press was so British/English centred). She told us to learn these words and we would be expected to read these at a special school assembly. I was terrified. I’ve never been great with public speaking and I didn’t really fancy making a fool of myself in front of older pupils.
The night before the assembly, my Nan found me at the back of the sofa with this sheet, crying because I just couldn’t understand it. I told my Nan everything, she took the sheet off me and she read it aloud in Scots, not in Queens English and it made sense, I understood it, but I said
“I can’t read it like that!”
“How no?”
“Because that’s slang, not English”
My Nan was livid, she was raging about what they teach at that bloody school. It was my Nan that taught me to love my native tongue and the culture that goes with it, not the education system.
Not only did we have to read poems to the rest of the school but we had to write an essay on Burns and our experiences of his poems. I was quite honest about how big a struggle it was to disypher these poems and surprisingly got an A .
My point is, when I see the BBC Scotsplaining it reminds me of this time. We in Scotland live under a hail of English/British media and reference, we’re always the other, even in our own wee bit hill and Glen!
PREACH
If you can’t atleast take a guess at the slang words then sorry man that’s on you but she’s still speaking English, just in a different accent and this is something that scottish people get made of for a lot
It’s condescending af when you see scottish people on your own national news or whatever with fucking subtitles
Just a heads up, she’s speaking Scots, not English. The issue comes that Scots are continually portrayed as ‘Brutish’ to the point that Merida wouldn’t tone it down.
And for those who say ‘well she’s Scottish and from Celtic Scotland where they wouldn’t have spoken English’, it’s not like they’ve made Belle speak French or whatever.
Update: he finally got the cat to the vet to see if she had a microchip
I was already on board with his sweet wholesome open-to-love-and-nurturing heart but I was fully unprepared for getting to that last tweet and seeing how off the hook HOT dude is
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