listen, i’m not a fan of pda either (it just makes me uncomfortable), but if you’re actually going to complain about pda (specifically GAY pda) at pride, then don’t go to pride. lgbt+ people have fought long and hard for their right to love, and it is no one’s place to tell us that we can’t express that love at the biggest lgbt+ event of the year
The thing is–people aren’t complaining about just “pda”–I saw the posts exclusionists were referring to. People were complaining about excessive pda, more specific than that, strangers making out/“sucking face” very very very close to them. Most people even said “making out so close that I am a part of the kissing against my will” or some variation on that.
No one is saying “NO PDA AT PRIDE!!” people are saying “Just respect my personal boundaries”. Every single person was encouraging PDA, but qualifying it by saying “keep it respectable for a public event”.
I cannot stress enough the fact that literally no one was saying “no PDA at pride”–let alone complaining “specifically about gay pda”. They were complaining about uncomfortable amounts of PDA at pride, specifically “sucking face on top of me” and not a single person said or even implied that only gay pda made them uncomfortable.
We can’t buy into their disingenuous bullshit guys. Exclusionists are intentionally misconstruing what people are saying to get an emotional response from you. It shouldn’t be working.
Or we can make Pride the one event in the year in which LGBTQIA+ people don’t have to suppress ourselves or conform to respectability politics?
There’s people telling us we can’t be ourselves every day of the year and yes, that includes sexuality.
There’s been weird shit going on at Pride since before you and I were even born. If you’re uncomfortable with weird shit at Pride then don’t go to Pride. Nobody is demanding that you hand in your LGBTQIA+ card if Pride makes you uncomfortable. I get uncomfortable with some things at Pride myself and I’ve been going since before I was in grade school.
I know you see a distinction between your own POV and the one you’re decrying but there honestly is less of one than you think. To use an analogy, @legsdemandias, suppose an anti were tell you that you should “keep your fic respectful for a public website.” Said anti can argue all day that their meaning of respectful isn’t hurting anyone because they know the boundary between respectful and disrespectful and no decent person would be caught in that boundary. But this isn’t adequately communicated just by the loaded term “respectful” and the anti is still trying to set a boundary that will hurt people that aren’t doing anything wrong besides being different from other people.
Not to mention this whole argument is built on the idea that Pride isn’t weird and defiant of society’s conventions all on its own. Even in Western countries with strong legal protections for LGBTQIA+ people it still is. There were gay men who were attacked at Pride in Utah yesterday. Two years ago, someone was arrested for trying to bring guns into Pride in Los Angeles. Stop trying to police how people in the community act at Pride when it isn’t even safe for us to be at Pride yet.
Idk why y’all are like this but I’m pretty sure y’all could drown in a puddle of water considering your inability to wrap to understand anything that isn’t meticulously explained word for word and claim that’s the only thing anyone is saying and I seriously can’t help you. Nuance? i don’t know her.
Whatever. It’d be cool if everyone could be welcomed to pride–or at least people would realize that it’s a public event and that it costs zero dollars to consider ur surroundings before doing something and how considering surroundings =/= DON’T DO IT EVER!!! EVIL!! BAD!!!!!!! KISSING IS BAD!!! That’s all people are asking and apparently that’s too fucking hard.
Why not you google image search, “couple at pride” or “leather at pride” or “dykes on bikes” or some other Pride-related terms, see the number of people who are both A) having a lot of fun being themselves and B) having fun in a way that personally doesn’t appeal to you, and just…leave them alone and keep not going to Pride (which you’re already not doing according to your tags)? Right now, you’re hurting a large portion of the community with Bush-era homophobia and people have a right to tell you that they wish you would stop.
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