i haven’t yet seen black panther, but i have like so many questions in terms of Wakanda Jews.
Like at what point did the isolationism start in Wakanda so like up to where did we were last all on the same page in terms of various sefarim and interpretations of Halachot and Jewish history.
Cause like I can’t imagine if I found out for the first time about the Holocaust so like imagine Jews from Wakanda finding out for the first time.
But also imagine them finding out that for the we are also by the millions back in our homeland and able to freely live and visit there for the first time since the destruction of the Second Temple.
Also imagine all the sefarim and minhagim that Wakanda Jews have written and come up with that the rest of the Jewish population don’t know about.
Like I would love to know Wakanda Jews traditions.
Like think of all the new Zemirot and tunes to be learnt.
And like just like there is Ladino, Judeo-Arabic, and Yiddish there must be must versions mixing the various languages spoken by the people of Wakanda with Hebrew.
Also like what do their decorations look like for their Sukkot, and like how to they design their kippot, ketubahs, menorahs, shuls, mikvahs, mezuzah covers, haggadahs, and more.
What do their wedding look like and what traditions do they do.
Like I’m just brimming with questions as to what Jewish life is like in Wakanda and what the Jews there have learnt.
Because think of all the Halacha questions that needed to be answered because they have such advanced technology and with new technology comes a million and one Halacha questions.
Like one of the really cool things about Jews is that no matter where in the world and when in time there are some things that just are always the same there is still just so much history and culture and traditions and philosophy and food to be shared
I can’t help but think that in this universe where Wakanda exists for Jews it must be a really exciting time.
I imagine that the Wakandan Jewish community would be very old, especially considering that Wakanda was untouched by Arabic and European expansion into Africa.
Well, in the comics, Wakanda did know about the Holocaust, and King T’Chaka (although this is from the 60′s version where T’challa becomes BP about when Tony gets his ass blasted in Vietnam, so in MCU it’d be T’Chaka’s dad) gave Howard Stark the vibranium to make Steve’s shield.
Like, they were still isolationists who protected themselves by giving an ignorant goat-herder impression to outsiders. They NEEDED to be underestimated if they were going to keep the war off their doorstep.
But T’Chaka flies himself, in the dead of night, to Howard Stark, a man who would know exactly what kind of high-tech rig would be needed to mine, refine, and use this metal, and says “That guy who punches Hitler in the face. He needs a better shield.”
T’Chaka risked exposure, risked his country going into a terrible war, JUST to give Steve a shield.
A shield with a star in the center.
Fuck, man, Wakanda’s Jews were already on that ball.
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But also, VIBRANIUM MEZUZAH, I’m here for that!
Considering that M’Baku’s tribe has Hindu elements, with Hanuman, I wouldn’t be surprised by there being Jewish Wakandans. I wonder when they may have arrived though, the Roman diasporia? Wakanda seems like they closed themselves off before then, though.
Given that: 1) Bast the panther goddess sounds like it’s linked to the Egyptian deity Bastet, 2) Wakanda is (currently) located near South Sudan, Uganda, Kenya and Ethiopia, and 3) there are established Jewish communities in at least two of those four countries, a connection between Wakanda and the Jewish people could potentially go as far back as King Solomon or the Exodus.
but isn’t hiduism only 500 years old so how would that work if Wakanda closed off before then
Hinduism is much older than that.
@fromchaostocosmos, the Rig Veda is in the 3500 period, putting it contemporary with the earliest estimates of the oldest books of the Tanakh. Arguably this makes Hinduism older than Judaism.
antisemitic conspiracy theories are funny bc according to them jews are behind all the cool things in the world like.. jazz, good sex, weed, communism, cities, modern art.. bitch ur welcome
it’s not that i think “gay people should shut up about the Holocaust,” it’s about recognizing what kind of relationship you have to the Holocaust
for Romani and Jewish people, the Holocaust constitutes a kind of generational trauma – the Holocaust today continues to be a presence in our families and communities. in my experience, if you’re Jewish, you either have family members who were killed in the Holocaust or you’re close to a lot of people who do. the Holocaust is also presently used, on a large scale, to terrorize us as part of our oppression.
it is a part of our consciousness and a part of our lives in a way that does not happen on the basis of being disabled or on the basis of being gay.
if you are gay or disabled but not Jewish or Romani, your relationship to the Holocaust is “i might have been affected by the Holocaust if i had been there.” if you are Jewish, your relationship to the Holocaust is “i am affected by the Holocaust.”
and that’s why y’all can produce Holocaust discourse just as bad as any other non-Romani gentiles, and why you need to be just as aware of that as they do.
so tonight I’m at synagogue, listening to the Purim Night reading of the Book of Esther, like you do
and near the end of this chapter my brain presents me with the following:
nooooo ooooone plots like Haman calls the shots like Haman plans a genocide by casting lots like Haman
(It only works with the Hebrew pronunciation of Haman, which, like Gaston, is accented on the second syllable.)
By the time we get home my brain has added:
for there’s none so well-favored and kingly yes, we all can be certain of that he’s so rich that his pockets are jingly and he looks really sharp in a three-cornered hat
*face in hands*
Petition to sing this every year at Purim.
I shared this with my dad, and he added:
No one’s spruce as Haman, Nor abstruse as Haman; No one’s half as good tying a noose as Haman! He’ll use gallows in all of his decorating! No one else hangs as well as Haman!
niiiiice
i know several people who will definitely appreciate this.
this is beautiful
oh wait
When I was a lad I hatched four dozen plots Every morning, to raise myself high… And now that I’m grown I hatch five dozen plots So all those who oppose me shall die!
I was trying very hard to not be pissed off that the cross guy Greg Zanis put up 17 crosses to represent the victims who were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and was about to post a pissed off post about Christian normativity with a link to Zanis’s outreach (since Columbine, he has built crosses for mass shooting victims and then installed them at the location of the rampage after driving from his home in Illinois).
He nailed Stars of David on the crosses, apparently after finding out that five of sutdents and one of the teachers murdered were Jewish. To make sure they were representated accurately and respectfully.
What does it say that I am truly shocked someone took the time and had this kind of compassion.
I just saw the weirdest ad on YouTube. I thought it was for a new WWII video game, but it didn’t seem to be selling anything – it looked like some kind of weird pro-Poland propaganda and just said “Poland did a lot to save the Jews” and then ended with a hashtag about Germany.
What… what did I just watch, and why was it on a YouTube video about sea slugs in America?
as far as I can tell, poland has made it illegal (!) to accuse them of being complicit in any nazi activity which occurred on polish soil, most sensible people objected to this, and the polish government are now putting weird propaganda ads on american youtube for unclear reasons
Hey… Poland? What the fuck?
Yeah they’re basically pulling all the propaganda out that they can saying that they weren’t AT ALL complicit in the murder of Jews and Roma along with the Nazis.
This is a part of Poland’s massive push to erase their own complicity in the Holocaust, and in post-Holocaust antisemitic violence. It is part of Poland’s rising antisemitism. It’s not just American youtube, however. It’s also Israeli youtube. So essentially, Poland is targeting the two countries in the world which have the largest Jewish populations today with this propaganda campaign.
There are multiple advertisements doing this.
I have yet to see one, but I will report any if they show up while I’m watching youtube.
Basically, here is a quick timeline of current related events which make this propaganda campaign terrifying:
60,000 far-right nationalists march on Poland’s independence day, Novermber 2017. chanting “Pure Poland! White Poland!” [Whoops, guess they forgot Nazi Germany saw them as Slavs and therefore lesser? Oh right, re-writing national myth is a part of fascism.] Demonstrators were highly antisemitic, one claimed he was marching against “Jewry.” Despite this, or perhaps because of it, the Polish government seemed to praise the event: “It was a beautiful sight,” the interior minister, Mariusz Błaszczak, said. “We are proud that so many Poles have decided to take part in a celebration connected to the Independence Day holiday.”
“Whoever publicly and contrary to the facts attributes to the Polish Nation or to the Polish State responsibility or co-responsibility for the Nazi crimes committed by the German Third Reich… or for any other offenses constituting crimes against peace, humanity or war crimes, or otherwise grossly diminishes the responsibility of the actual perpetrators of these crimes, shall be liable to a fine or deprivation of liberty for up to three years.”
Discussion of ANY Polish complicity in the Holocaust is therefore also part of the proposed ban. Punishment can be jail time, fine, or “restriction of liberty.” Supporters of Polish President Andrzej Duda urge him to sign the bill regardless of strong objections from both the United States, Israel, and the academic community/Holocaust scholars. The measure passed through Parliament on the eve of Holocaust Remembrance Day, Jan 27th 2018. This causes Israel to postpone diplomatic meetings with Polish representatives, and both Israel and the USA voice objections to the measure.
February 6th, 2018: an article which asks an important question – Poland wants to outlaw blaming Poles for Nazi atrocities. But what about the Jedwabne massacre?To cut to the chase, in an occupied town of Poland in 1941, the Polish residents rounded up the town’s Jewish population, and then willingly (and freely) slaughtered an estimated 400-1,400 of their Jewish neighbors [numbers are estimates as the site was not fully excavated, but rather exhumed in a controlled section], as German forces looked on. The Germans had even refused to let them use firearms, and so the gentile Polish residents of Jedwabne used farm tools as their method of execution.
Then, as of this Shabbat (Saturday, Feb. 10th 2018), jumblr users begin to post warnings about Americans seeing these Pro-revisionism Polish videos on youtube. Others confirm Israelis have been inundated with these videos as well. Although I don’t know if it began earlier, I have noticed that people started first seeing these ads introduced on the Jewish weekly holy day/day of rest, and I do wonder if slipping them in when many Jewish people wouldn’t have noticed was intentional, which feels especially sinister.
Baruch atah adonai, aloheinu melech ha-olam, boreh pri ha-assur.
(blessed are you our lord, ruler of the universe, who creates the forbidden fruit)
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