don’t @ me but these posts about how scary and gross gay men’s sexuality is and how kids will like instantly turn to stone if they catch a brief glimpse of a leather harness which they don’t even know what it is, are boring tbh. this squeamishness about gay culture is old and tired and boring. i’ll pass
I don’t get how someone can be against anti-shipping and also against weird shit at Pride.
“Write as much weird fic as you want and I will support you but don’t be weird IRL or you’re disrespectful and should stop.”
And now I know of at least THREE people who hold this contradictory position.
Your explicit kinky Reylo fic is squicking someone else out just as much as you are squicked out by makeout sessions at Pride. Just letting y’all know that.
I’m at the point where I wish people who have never been to Pride would just STFU about it entirely. Same with gay bars.
listen, i’m not a fan of pda either (it just makes me uncomfortable), but if you’re actually going to complain about pda (specifically GAY pda) at pride, then don’t go to pride. lgbt+ people have fought long and hard for their right to love, and it is no one’s place to tell us that we can’t express that love at the biggest lgbt+ event of the year
The thing is–people aren’t complaining about just “pda”–I saw the posts exclusionists were referring to. People were complaining about excessive pda, more specific than that, strangers making out/“sucking face” very very very close to them. Most people even said “making out so close that I am a part of the kissing against my will” or some variation on that.Â
No one is saying “NO PDA AT PRIDE!!” people are saying “Just respect my personal boundaries”. Every single person was encouraging PDA, but qualifying it by saying “keep it respectable for a public event”.
I cannot stress enough the fact that literally no one was saying “no PDA at pride”–let alone complaining “specifically about gay pda”. They were complaining about uncomfortable amounts of PDA at pride, specifically “sucking face on top of me” and not a single person said or even implied that only gay pda made them uncomfortable.
We can’t buy into their disingenuous bullshit guys. Exclusionists are intentionally misconstruing what people are saying to get an emotional response from you. It shouldn’t be working.Â
Or we can make Pride the one event in the year in which LGBTQIA+ people don’t have to suppress ourselves or conform to respectability politics?Â
There’s people telling us we can’t be ourselves every day of the year and yes, that includes sexuality.
There’s been weird shit going on at Pride since before you and I were even born. If you’re uncomfortable with weird shit at Pride then don’t go to Pride. Nobody is demanding that you hand in your LGBTQIA+ card if Pride makes you uncomfortable. I get uncomfortable with some things at Pride myself and I’ve been going since before I was in grade school.
I know you see a distinction between your own POV and the one you’re decrying but there honestly is less of one than you think. To use an analogy, @legsdemandias, suppose an anti were tell you that you should “keep your fic respectful for a public website.” Said anti can argue all day that their meaning of respectful isn’t hurting anyone because they know the boundary between respectful and disrespectful and no decent person would be caught in that boundary. But this isn’t adequately communicated just by the loaded term “respectful” and the anti is still trying to set a boundary that will hurt people that aren’t doing anything wrong besides being different from other people.
Idk why y’all are like this but I’m pretty sure y’all could drown in a puddle of water considering your inability to wrap to understand anything that isn’t meticulously explained word for word and claim that’s the only thing anyone is saying and I seriously can’t help you. Nuance? i don’t know her.
Whatever. It’d be cool if everyone could be welcomed to pride–or at least people would realize that it’s a public event and that it costs zero dollars to consider ur surroundings before doing something and how considering surroundings =/= DON’T DO IT EVER!!! EVIL!! BAD!!!!!!! KISSING IS BAD!!! That’s all people are asking and apparently that’s too fucking hard.Â
Why not you google image search, “couple at pride” or “leather at pride” or “dykes on bikes” or some other Pride-related terms, see the number of people who are both A) having a lot of fun being themselves and B) having fun in a way that personally doesn’t appeal to you, and just…leave them alone and keep not going to Pride (which you’re already not doing according to your tags)? Right now, you’re hurting a large portion of the community with Bush-era homophobia and people have a right to tell you that they wish you would stop.
listen, i’m not a fan of pda either (it just makes me uncomfortable), but if you’re actually going to complain about pda (specifically GAY pda) at pride, then don’t go to pride. lgbt+ people have fought long and hard for their right to love, and it is no one’s place to tell us that we can’t express that love at the biggest lgbt+ event of the year
The thing is–people aren’t complaining about just “pda”–I saw the posts exclusionists were referring to. People were complaining about excessive pda, more specific than that, strangers making out/“sucking face” very very very close to them. Most people even said “making out so close that I am a part of the kissing against my will” or some variation on that.Â
No one is saying “NO PDA AT PRIDE!!” people are saying “Just respect my personal boundaries”. Every single person was encouraging PDA, but qualifying it by saying “keep it respectable for a public event”.
I cannot stress enough the fact that literally no one was saying “no PDA at pride”–let alone complaining “specifically about gay pda”. They were complaining about uncomfortable amounts of PDA at pride, specifically “sucking face on top of me” and not a single person said or even implied that only gay pda made them uncomfortable.
We can’t buy into their disingenuous bullshit guys. Exclusionists are intentionally misconstruing what people are saying to get an emotional response from you. It shouldn’t be working.Â
Or we can make Pride the one event in the year in which LGBTQIA+ people don’t have to suppress ourselves or conform to respectability politics?Â
There’s people telling us we can’t be ourselves every day of the year and yes, that includes sexuality.
There’s been weird shit going on at Pride since before you and I were even born. If you’re uncomfortable with weird shit at Pride then don’t go to Pride. Nobody is demanding that you hand in your LGBTQIA+ card if Pride makes you uncomfortable. I get uncomfortable with some things at Pride myself and I’ve been going since before I was in grade school.
I know you see a distinction between your own POV and the one you’re decrying but there honestly is less of one than you think. To use an analogy, @legsdemandias, suppose an anti were tell you that you should “keep your fic respectful for a public website.” Said anti can argue all day that their meaning of respectful isn’t hurting anyone because they know the boundary between respectful and disrespectful and no decent person would be caught in that boundary. But this isn’t adequately communicated just by the loaded term “respectful” and the anti is still trying to set a boundary that will hurt people that aren’t doing anything wrong besides being different from other people.
yeah non lesbians can stop making jokes about our flag situation pls like is it so hilarious to you that we don’t have a single historical flag without uncomfortable meanings or connotations
and “useless lesbians” is literally because of lesbians being taught that their attraction to women is predatory and wrong like if you’re not a lesbian what the fuck gives you the right to laugh at that
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