To add onto that, this is why people need to stop calling their ideological opponents nazis if they don’t actually follow nazi beliefs. It perpetuates the myth that nazism isn’t a coherent ideology, and it makes it easier for them to be like “anything gets called a nazi nowadays =(((” when someone calls them out for perpetuating nazism.
Shocking anti-Semitic messages from a University of Manchester Physics group chat have tonight been exposed, where one student twice commented that “6 million Jews ain’t enough” and another called for an invasion of Poland.
The messages were sent to a “1st Year Physics” Facebook group chat, broadcasting them to over 200 fellow students, originally reported the Mancunion.
The abhorrent conversation was initiated when a student asked the group if they would rather become an engineer or a Neo-Nazi.
Another student replied “Pfft, why you asking that? Tis an easy question. Now brb while I make some lebensraum.”
Lebensraum was an ideological principle of Nazism, referring to a territorial expansion into Eastern European countries and the removal or genocide of their populations.
When another student replied “I would rather die tbh,” the student that instigated the conversation told him “Don’t be a Jew.”
Another first year Physics student then suggested an invasion of Greece, Russia, Spain, Poland, and India.
A student then made some of the most abhorrent comments, twice repeating that “6 million Jews ain’t enough,” referring to the approximately 6 million Jewish victims of the Holocaust.
Another student attempted to intervene at this point, though those involved continued, telling the student that asked “could you stop with the nazism maybe now?” to “Calm the fuck down.”
The student that intervened went on to tell those “mocking others for calling you out on your literal fucking naziism, maybe you should sit down and think for a change.”
Astonishingly, it seems several first year Physics students thought it acceptable to make such comments in a conversation with over 200 fellow students.
Alongside academic sanctions, multiple students lost jobs and placements following the scandal.
And just over two weeks ago, the University of Manchester removed the ratings section from their Facebook page, following a flood of negative reviews that dropped the University’s rating to the second lowest of any Russell Group University. Students were also blocked from commenting on any of the University’s social media posts.
Following the anti-Semitism incident at UoM, an email condemning the messages was sent to all UoM Physics students this afternoon. Similar comments were made when a University spokesperson gave the Mancunion this statement:
“The University is a welcoming environment and we will not tolerate any form of discrimination or harassment. Allegations of this nature are thoroughly investigated and if appropriate, disciplinary action will be taken.”
UoM’s Jewish Society has condemned the messages as “shameless” and “blatantly unacceptable.” The society told The Mancunion: “The Jewish Society is deeply concerned by this incidence of overt and shameless anti-Semitism in a public forum.
“At a time when attacks against Jewish students are on a nationwide uptick, it is shocking that students who have attempted to call out anti-Semitism have faced ridicule. It is blatantly unacceptable for fellow students to tell someone to ‘calm the f**k down’ after being told ‘6 million Jews ain’t enough’.
“We expect a robust and transparent investigation into this incident from the relevant faculty, who we call on to denounce this incident in the strongest possible terms. It is incumbent of all members of the student body to tackle anti-Semitism wherever it arises”.
I will be very, very honest with you, because I feel that is the best thing for me to do:
The morning of my beit din, one of the Rabbis was a few minutes late. We were concerned he might have ended up even more late than that, but luckily, he wasn’t. The reason for his being a few minutes late was because he worked at the local JCC/Day School and the entire campus had to be evacuated that morning because another wave of bomb threats had been phoned in. I’m not sure if it was the second, or the third.
So imagine, not being me (waiting nervously in the Synagogue library), but instead being that Rabbi. His morning schedule – whatever it was he normally would have done as a Rabbi of the community – was interrupted by a death threat to him, his colleagues, anyone on the campus, and the children under their care. Coffee, Breakfast, Work, Phoned in Bomb Threat, Evacuation, and then waiting for an all clear.
…Then serving a beit din for a conversion candidate.
You may imagine that most Rabbis or even most beit dins will bring up the issue of antisemitism, and that it is a serious part of the process of educating a conversion candidate.
This rabbi was the one to bring it up on my beit din. He had, after all, spent his morning evacuating a Jewish organization’s building and talking with police, and he thought it was important to question if, given the circumstances, I was really going to throw my lot in.
He wasn’t necessarily turning me away, but he was definitely questioning my judgement, if you get what I mean. He wanted to know why, and he more or less asked something similar to what you are asking me.
My answer may not be your answer. My answer may not help you. My answer is a personal one.
I explained who I was already, and I don’t remember everything I said then to the letter, but this is more or less the essence of it: I am mixed race, I look white, but I am Mexican-American, and plenty of my family is visibly brown. If they are in danger for being Mexican, I am in danger. I was taught that the most dangerous gangs were neonazis and the KKK. I’ve worked in a Latino cultural center where we had to make the choice to be non-political in Arizona because if we put up political art, we might have rocks thrown through our windows, or worse.
A white supremacist murdered a friend of mine’s family – the culmination of an evil, slimy scumbag of a human being worming his way into a woman’s life, abusing her, and terrorizing her, her children, and baby grandchild. I went to the candlelight vigil, the triple funeral (a fourth person also died), my friend the only survivor in the house.
I pointed out then that I am not going to ever be out of the line of fire of acceptable targets for white supremacists or neonazis. My existence will never be acceptable to those kinds of people anyways, so letting them dictate my choices through fear doesn’t leave me with very many choices. I didn’t really need to find extra or newfound strength, because I am applying already learned skills to a new scenario. Minorities in America do not have the luxury of going about their existence without any sense of fear for them or their families. We just don’t.
I also don’t believe that I would have stopped interacting with the Jewish community if I hadn’t finished my conversion. It would be foolish to state I have no fear whatsoever, but also at some point, I have recognized my entire life has included navigating fear.
Anyone can be afraid. Anyone can want to hide. Hiding is a strong survival mechanism. So is fleeing. It’s a privilege to recognize you have safety, and few people are eager to forfeit their own safety. I don’t see any point in diminishing that. Your average WASP has led a life which has not prepared you for the idea that people who don’t know you might want you dead on principle of your ethnicity. Even on a smaller scale – there’s probably been almost no vandalism in your daily life that marks a place, location, or world that is not welcoming for you.
I don’t think there’s any particular answer I can give.
Perhaps it is more prudent to answer a question with a question:
Are you underestimating yourself, or are you doing what is best for you?
This is a very thorough piece about the formation of Atomwaffen and the Nazi/ISIS murders in Florida. Three things that jump out at me:
1. the number of times in the article a Hitler-loving bona fide 100% Nazi says, “I’m not a Nazi, I’m a NatSoc.” Once they’ve been radicalized to that point, they truly believe that’s a meaningful statement, although to anyone from outside it’s the height of absurdity along the lines of, “I’m not a white supremacist, I’m a white nationalist.” Their entire subculture grew up with an internalized faith in internet marketing and image management and update cycles to the point they think they can rebrand Nazism in much the same way as Kellogg updates classic cereal box covers.
2. The Nazi that used to put his mom in a chokehold. A lot of shallower discussions here on Tumblr tend to idealize younger generations as free from sin while their parents (the evil “Boomers”) are holding society back from progressing. We need to get smarter than that. A more common and real narrative on the alt right is the older generation trying (and failing) to hold the younger one from regressing into fascism. And lots of son-to-mother verbal and physical abuse. The alt right like to call Generation Z “Generation Zyklon” in hopes that they’ll bring death camps with their youthful energy. More than one of these types has killed parents.
3. The FBI has been eerily “hands off” when it comes to Atomwaffen. Unfortunately, I think it’s going to take another Oklahoma City to get them to give a shit about radical whites again.
4. Another thing that jumped out at me was how little the parents seemed to care, especially Andrew’s Dad because he both disavowed his son’s views but also let him keep a Nazi flag in his room according to his sister.
Also why the far right cares so much about the Overton window and shifting it over to what they want…because what designates an idea as “dog shit” becomes subjective based on the whims of society (society might be in total denial and think it’s…idk…some type of exotic fudge). That’s why keeping them from defining what is socially acceptable and what is not is so important.
NEWNAN, GA – A group that says its mission is to protect communities from police abuse is calling police liars for the official description of people taken into custody facing down neo-Nazis last weekend. Ten arrests were made at the neo-Nazi rally held in Newnanon Saturday. Those arrested were there to shout down the white supremacists and were mostly arrested for disorderly conduct and possession of prohibited items such as masks, fireworks, smoke grenades, various types of insect spray, bottles inscribed with the terms “shake and law” and a shield with outfacing screws, according to a statement made by the City of Newnan.
On Wednesday, Copwatch of East Atlanta said their teams directly observed the protest, and what they documented is far different from the story the police have told.
Here is what Copwatch of East Atlanta says about what happened at the white supremacist rally at Greenville Street Park on Saturday:
Police claim that activists were arrested for wearing masks, but the group has video it says shows several of those charged with “wearing a mask” were completely unmasked.
Police claim that activists were blocking the street, but Copwatch documentation shows activists repeatedly pulled off the sidewalk into the street and then arrested.
Police claim that activists were blocking the street, but Copwatch video shows activists repeatedly pulled off the sidewalk into the street and then arrested.
Several of the arrests were unfounded and police were forced to release the activists that same day without charge.
Patch has contacted authorities seeking comment on the allegations by Copwatch, and will update this story with any reply.
According to Copwatch of East Atlanta, their cameraman was purposefully targeted for recording the event.
“Especially concerning was the violent arrest of one of our camera people, Andrew,” reads the Copwatch website. “He was at the protest not as a participant but as a legal observer, documenting police activity. He was clearly marked as an observer, and was careful to break no laws.
“Unfortunately, Newnan police seemed uncomfortable with being recorded, because they specifically targeted Andrew for arrest,” continues the post. “Without warning, they dragged him off the sidewalk and threw him forcefully to the pavement, injuring him. He was held in handcuffs and his backpack and camera were illegally searched. Once the protesters had left the area, he was released without charge. This hostility towards freedom of the press and transparency should be very troubling.”
Copwatch also questioned what the police said the anti-neo-Nazi protestors were carrying.
“… Similarly, claims about supposed dangerous contraband are questionable. Police have presented a bottle containing "liquid antacid and water” or “LAW” as evidence of malicious intent, but “LAW” is a harmless home remedy. It’s unclear why items like this were enough to convince officers that their lives were in danger.
“It’s always common to find a few discrepancies between official reports and our documentation on the ground, and it’s common for officers to occasionally make mistakes in enforcing the law. However in this case we see a pattern of false and misleading statements made by police representatives, and we documented many unjustified arrests, all similar. We believe this clearly shows that the police engaged in a deliberate campaign to suppress anti-racist protests in Newnan.”
people who compare jews to nazis really have NO idea what the shoah did, realistically, and how it affected every single jew back then and how it affects survivors and their descendants now. they have no clue. 6 million jews murdered. 2/3 of the european jewish population, roughly 40% of the all jews in the world at the time. theyre basically arbitrary numbers and faceless statistics to non-rromani, white goyim, they have NO idea. torture. painful losses by the hundreds and thousands and millions. families upon families torn apart. begging for mercy and refuge and being refused. being hunted like animals. being imprisoned like animals. dying gruesome deaths robbed entirely of dignity and humanity. thrown into unmarked mass graves like trash. most of us alive today, our existence was a game of chance. its just luck that we’re here. my grandparents, both with plenty of siblings, survived with only my grandmothers sister remaining. out of my great-grandparents, only one lived past the 1940s. entire family trees were chopped and burned down to barely more than tree stubs and saplings, if that. nazis did this. nazis affected so many jewish lives to the point where we’re still being affected. nazis targeted jews directly. white supremacism still targets jews directly. “jew” itself is a dirty word in the mouths of too many people. to equate jewish people to nazis just because you disagree with them on some bullshit online discourse is antisemitic and honestly just downright pretty fuckin cruel. you have absolutely no idea.
If you’re following the whole Hans Asperger debacle:
You can find that article here. It provides a detailed look at the matter. This piece, as well as Steve Silberman & Maxfield Sparrow’s Tweet responses, add important nuance and autistic voices to the discussion.
Maxfield Sparrow talks about the impact of this news about Asperger, giving advice to fellow autists/aspies, and asks the question “Why was the first printing of “NeuroTribes” so kind to Asperger?”.
Silberman’s reply to that is extensive. Still, it is important to know for anybody telling others to just “read NeuroTribes”. Part of it reads:
“The reason I didn’t attempt to overturn that consensus was that I didn’t have access to the data in Sheffer’s book and Czech’s paper, which they deserve credit for uncovering. It was widely believed that Asperger’s case files had been destroyed during the war, but Czech found them in a municipal archive in Vienna. That’s where a lot of this new information is coming from.”
Through no fault on Silberman’s part, he did not have access to the full information. And Silberman states that Hertig Czech did not give him the same information about Asperger as he gave the author of “In A Different Key”. Czech had refused to provide the details that came out in that book because “he wanted to first publish the information under his own name”. Which is messed up, in my humble opinion. Later in the article, Edith Sheffer is displayed as having misrepresented Lorna Wing’s attitude to the term “Asperger’s” during her book’s epilogue. It goes to show what a grey area all this research and publishment can be. Everybody appears to have a bias (Silberman included) and this affects their speech. To gain a clear view, all talkers must be examined.
Maxfield Sparrow also makes a valid point here:
“One good thing that came out of reading Sheffer’s book was that it brought me a step closer to understanding and embracing Autistic Pride. I struggle with being okay about being Autistic and often Autistic Pride seems just a bridge too far. But seeing more clearly that we have always faced the barriers we face today has stirred some pride in being part of a people who survive against the odds. Seeing non-compliance pathologized by Nazi doctors makes me proud to belong to a people who resist oppression. And realizing that so much of what passes for therapy and accommodation today would be wholeheartedly embraced by Nazi doctors reminds me that the monsters who killed Autistic children 80 years ago were also human beings with families and friends and loving relationships. It reminds me that otherwise good people today could also be monsters.”
Honestly, I encourage you to read the whole piece, even though it’s lengthy. Don’t leave this at the quotes I picked out as they cannot give the entire picture. It must be viewed fully. Because then you can form your own opinion on the article fairly.
Maxfield Sparrow and Steve Silberman have a reciprocative discussion, both asking and answering questions, delving much deeper into it than “Hans Asperger isn’t the problem!” vs “Hans Asperger is the Devil!”
Their conclusions:
“[Maxfield Sparrow:] When the chips are down, I will always join with my neurotribe. So I want to officially state that, while I still don’t personally want to be called an Aspie, I am ready to fight on behalf of my Autistic siblings who do connect with that identity—not as a euphemism for high functioning, but as a cultural marker of their understanding of themselves and the world we live in. No, you cannot take away the identity of thousands of Autistics! Asperger had deep flaws, but the identity that has grown around his name is valid and the people who identify with Asperger’s have the right to decide for themselves whether to keep his name or not.
Steve Silberman: I agree. I think autistic people should be leading the response to this new information and determining what happens to the phrase Asperger’s syndrome. One of the best things that could come out of this is a wake-up call, because concepts like eugenics reassert themselves in every historical era—whether it’s Nazis talking about “life unworthy of life,” geneticists in Iceland talking about “eradicating” Down syndrome through selective abortion, a presidential candidate mocking a disabled reporter from the podium while bragging about his “good genes,” or autism charities framing autism as an economic burden on society. Resisting institutionalized violence requires perpetual vigilance.”
Can we please not do this ever, no house of M movie. And I am gonna tell y’all why, because:
1. Elizabeth Olsen has shown she doesn’t understand Wanda as a character especially an arc like House of M (example she made an ableist remark about how “Oh I want to do house of M because she goes batshit crazy” which shows how little she understand the trauma and depression that the whole event was center around and also continued to produced to her later on). Elizabeth Olsen plays a cheap copy of Wanda Maximoff, she plays a Wendy Mayomoff, a white christian girl that joins a Nazi organization and acts like a hot topic teen most of the times.
2. Elisabeth Olsen is white and christian, two things Wanda Maximoff isn’t AKA she is romani jewish. A movie centered on the so called struggles of a white Christian woman isn’t what we need.
3. Do you people trust Marvel to make a good movie about such a topic? They couldn’t even cast her right and you expect this movie to be good? Especially since she doesn’t even have Wanda’s powers, she has telekinesis and mind reading she is basically Jean Grey especially now since they made her a ginger. House of M happened because Wanda has reality warping as a power, how the fuck is Wendy gonna do that folks with her MCU powers????
4. It’s fucking white washing and I don’t need her to get more exposure as a Joss Wheddon wet dream more than she already is. Either they reboot her and make her comic accurate either they kill her off in this movie and leave my done romani ass alone with this over glorification of white mediocrity.
5. House of M is a long story and needs a lot of previous work, we need Disassemble first, and before we need William and Thomas being taken by Mephisto, and for that we need Vision and Wanda marriage and parental time, that’s a lot of trama you can’t just put in one movie.
6. House of M is one of the darkest moments in the Magnus family story, it’s heartbreaking, Wanda is broken because she lost her babies and no one seems to understand her pain, all the heros are acting like assholes, Pietro is so desperate because all their friends are talking about killing his sister, the most important person in his life, and no even the great Magneto can help them, his desperation makes him take the last way…HoM, but at the end he get killed by his own father, then is revived, depowered and left completely alone while Wanda just disappeared. At the end the twins are hopeless, alone, broken and will regret this decision forever.
7. That story destroyed the twins reputation, until today I can see people calling Wanda “The Witch who destroyed the mutants” and Pietro “the selfish asshole”, and it’s so unfair.
8. All the House of story happened because Marvel wanted the “No more mutants” bullshit happening, but with the twins not being Magneto’s children and the mutants not existing in the MCU, what’s the point???
Never in my life have I ever wanted anything less. You wanna do something interesting with the MCU and Wanda Maximoff, they could try, y’know, introducing her, and booting off ol’ Wendy, revealing her to be the poor-man’s Hydra copy they’re trying to use to infiltrate the Avengers. Seriously, that would be so fucking amazing, having the ACTUAL Maximoffs show up, with their ACTUAL powers, and be all “… you thought that was us? … hah, no.” and then Smack Down on Nazi Fucks time.
But this? Jesus fuck no. Jesus FUCK no.
can i live in the world where what you said happened?
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