Why is Ocean’s 8 getting so much credit for “lesbian” content? It’s 2018, Pride month no less, and we’re still out here celebrating queer subtext?
Uhuh
Man, I was so fucking disappointed when I saw the film, because people on tumblr were straight up saying that Lou and Debbie are girlfriends. Ship them all you want, but this isn’t queer representation? It was still a bunch of straight white women with their token POC, collect-one-of-each-colour cast.
I liked the movie well enough, but if they do another, they’re going to have to work a lot harder to win me over, because this ain’t going to cut it.
This exactly. Very tired of crediting straight white women for doing nothing. They didn’t make anything canon queer so they wouldn’t alienate homophobic people and get their homophobic cash but then they’ll amp up the queer lady subtext in after the fact interviews so queer fandom feels like they’re somehow a winner of…nothing really. This isn’t something to celebrate, this is convenient exploitation and it should at least irritate you.
I feel like it is, in part, a side-effect of fandom becoming more mainstream and acceptable. Creators are interacting so much more with fans and learning how we respond to media, and they’re trying to talk to us like we talk to each other, when we’re gushing about ships and headcanons…except when the creators do this, it is radically different from us doing it, because they have the potential to make it canon, and they AREN’T. They’re trying to appeal to our fannish desires and gain our approbation, without actually following through on any of it. I find it pretty heinous, the way, for example, JK Rowling tries to pander to minority groups after the fact by saying “Dumbledore was gay” or “Hermione can be black” instead of, you know, making it canon in the books.
It’s particularly disappointing in something like Ocean’s 8, which was already going to be pissing off a portion of potential audience by the mere fact that it was remaking a previously male-centric cast with it’s female-centric one, which we know from other all-female remakes brings out the asshole man babies. So frankly, having one or two queer characters wouldn’t have been pushing the envelope that much. It didn’t even need to have much more than a couple throw-away lines, since the movie focused on the heist and platonic female relationships more than anything else. Though, given that Danny and Tess’s relationship (and Rusty and Isabel’s) is fairly important to the plots of the first two films, having a romantic side plot wouldn’t have been out of place.
Nope, this is the height of laziness wanting credit for being the opposite.
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