okay so the thing is like…i looked up the Jewdas’ haggadah, because I recognized this as being from The Fucking Haggadah, and to Jewdas’ (very small) credit they A.) only used TFH for part of their haggadah (at least in 2015 anyways) and B.) did not use the Fucking Haggadah’s english translations for the blessing, because TFH’s translation reads as follows:
someone recommended I use the “fun” TFH haggadah and anyways needless to say I Was Not Doing That.
The worst part of the Jewdas Haggadah I linked is it runs the polar extremes of talking about say, black lives matter and the conflict, but then also like…using irreverent and crude humor from TFH that feels fundamentally dissonant because there’s no serious attempt to mesh the two.
Like literally, here’s how it goes:
[1] We have olives on our seder plate to show solidarity with the Palestinians in their struggle for
freedom. When we dip in salt water tonight to symbolise the tears of oppressed people, we
think of their tears in particular.
[Blessing of fruits of the earth, and the Orange on the seder plate bit here]
[2] KARPAS (weed)
It’s finally fucking spring. Allergies are destroying our faces. It’s
getting humid. BUT AT LEAST IT’S FUCKING SPRING. It’s
hopeful, damnit. The karpas reminds us of that hope. So does
weed.
Alright, here comes a weird Jewy thing. We now dip the karpas in
salt water because tears taste salty. We are drinking the tears that our homies cried when they were slaves in Egypt. Yeah, it’s weird,
fuck you. It’s so we never forget how shitty it is to not be in control
of our own lives and potential. Don’t forget about their pain.
Drinking tears is fucking metal.
[Blessing]
[3] Dipping the karpas is a sign of luxury and freedom. The saltwater represents the tears of
our ancestors in Mitzrayim. This year may it also represent tears of Black
parents and families mourning the loss of their Black youth at the hands
of police brutality. (From the black lives matter supplement)
It goes from “we think of the tears of palestinians,” to like “karpas is weed and salt water is the tears our homies cried and drinking tears is fucking metal,” to “the tears may also represent black families mourning those lost at the hands of police brutality.”
ABSOLUTELY NO COHESION.
point against the Jewdas’ haggadah: at least the straight TFH text seems to maintain the same level of ridiculousness and keeps it entirely about the Jewish community (so that serious and important issues are not stifled by “jokes”).
either way thanks i hate it.
Been working my butt off to get the Seder ready for the past few days. One hour to go and I’m so ready for it
A Note to Episcopalians in the Passover Haggadah “For this we left Egypt?”: You have picked up the wrong book.
I’m sorry, but what does this mean?
One question, two answers:
(One of the authors) Dave Barry’s father is a minister named David Barry and this might be a joke about that
AND,
Christians in general shouldn’t lead or hold Passover Seders (especially without any Jewish people present).
Okay, so I’m genuinely curious. This is the second post I’ve seen referencing Christians holding/leading a Passover Seder.
Is this like a common Christian practice somewhere? I’ve never heard of Christians doing this before now, but I have an admittedly limited Northeastern-American-Roman-Catholic perspective.
It is fairly common, because lots of xtians think it will bring them ~closer to jesus~ despite the fact that the modern Seder came after his death and had nothing to do with him.
In my experience, it’s an Evangelical thing. The idea is well, since the Old Testament is the necessary precursor to the New Testament all of it was meant for Christians, and is part of christian heritage since… they’re God’s people… too. Like, the old testament, while about the Jewish people, is seen as still being written to future Christians because that’s where a lot of the basics of christian theology come from (original sin, prophets prophecying about Jesus, the whole christ the husband/the church [rather than israel] the bride thing, like the entirety of Hebrews [the book], and so forth).
and yes, it’s super appropriative.
it’s extra appropriative because the things you named just aren’t a thing in the hebrew bible at all. original sin? book of hebrews? what’s that. not in the tanakh.
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