As we celebrate this yearâs Pride month, do not forget to remember the tragic Pulse Night Club shooting. Remember that it was POC who were targeted. Remember this as we continue to fight. Iâll be either attending or hosting a local memorial this year, and I strongly recommend others do the same, if itâs possible.Â
âAs the gay movement expands and becomes more assimilated, people who are not so easily assimilated will feel marginalized. Their marginalization creates another round of resistance. Itâs an inefficient and somewhat embarrassing process, but itâs also extremely invigorating and democratic.â â Jeffrey Escoffier, July 1994
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Picture: Sylvia Rivera leads the alternative Stonewall 25 march, New York City, June 26, 1994. Photo Š AP.
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For many in the gay, lesbian, and bisexual communities, the massive celebrations surrounding the 25th anniversary of Stonewallâculminating in the Stonewall 25 Parade on June 26, 1994, twenty-three years ago todayâwere a hard-earned opportunity to reflect on how far the gay community had come since 1969. For many others, however, Stonewall 25 was yet another example of the mainstream queer communityâs myopic vision of âgay liberation.â
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A number of militant groupsâincluding ACT UP, the Lesbian Avengers, Spirit of Stonewall (SOS), and Transgender Menaceâvoiced their frustrations with the official march, and a coalition formed.
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âQueers have been getting thrown out of things for years by straight people,â SOS member Bill Dobbs said, âand now gay people are getting on their high horses and throwing some gay people out of the movement.â
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Most clearly excluded from the main events was the transgender community; Stonewall 25, for example, was officially a âGay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Eventâ despite calls for inclusion of âTransgenderâ in the title. In response, and in recognition of her decades of tireless activism, Sylvia Rivera was asked to lead the alternative march.
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Most sources today incorrectly provide that Rivera was honored at Stonewall 25, implying that the official organization recognized her contributions to the movement. While participants in the alternative march gave Rivera the respect she earned, it is not the case that she was honored by Stonewall 25 itself. #HavePrideInHistory #Resist #Pride2017 (at Flatiron Building)
I donât get how someone can be against anti-shipping and also against weird shit at Pride.
âWrite as much weird fic as you want and I will support you but donât be weird IRL or youâre disrespectful and should stop.â
And now I know of at least THREE people who hold this contradictory position.
Your explicit kinky Reylo fic is squicking someone else out just as much as you are squicked out by makeout sessions at Pride. Just letting y’all know that.
listen, iâm not a fan of pda either (it just makes me uncomfortable), but if youâre actually going to complain about pda (specifically GAY pda) at pride, then donât go to pride. lgbt+ people have fought long and hard for their right to love, and it is no oneâs place to tell us that we canât express that love at the biggest lgbt+ event of the year
The thing isâpeople arenât complaining about just âpdaââI saw the posts exclusionists were referring to. People were complaining about excessive pda, more specific than that, strangers making out/âsucking faceâ very very very close to them. Most people even said âmaking out so close that I am a part of the kissing against my willâ or some variation on that.Â
No one is saying âNO PDA AT PRIDE!!â people are saying âJust respect my personal boundariesâ. Every single person was encouraging PDA, but qualifying it by saying âkeep it respectable for a public eventâ.
I cannot stress enough the fact that literally no one was saying âno PDA at prideââlet alone complaining âspecifically about gay pdaâ. They were complaining about uncomfortable amounts of PDA at pride, specifically âsucking face on top of meâ and not a single person said or even implied that only gay pda made them uncomfortable.
We canât buy into their disingenuous bullshit guys. Exclusionists are intentionally misconstruing what people are saying to get an emotional response from you. It shouldnât be working.Â
Or we can make Pride the one event in the year in which LGBTQIA+ people donât have to suppress ourselves or conform to respectability politics?Â
Thereâs people telling us we canât be ourselves every day of the year and yes, that includes sexuality.
Thereâs been weird shit going on at Pride since before you and I were even born. If youâre uncomfortable with weird shit at Pride then donât go to Pride. Nobody is demanding that you hand in your LGBTQIA+ card if Pride makes you uncomfortable. I get uncomfortable with some things at Pride myself and Iâve been going since before I was in grade school.
I know you see a distinction between your own POV and the one youâre decrying but there honestly is less of one than you think. To use an analogy, @legsdemandias, suppose an anti were tell you that you should âkeep your fic respectful for a public website.â Said anti can argue all day that their meaning of respectful isnât hurting anyone because they know the boundary between respectful and disrespectful and no decent person would be caught in that boundary. But this isnât adequately communicated just by the loaded term ârespectfulâ and the anti is still trying to set a boundary that will hurt people that arenât doing anything wrong besides being different from other people.
Idk why yâall are like this but Iâm pretty sure yâall could drown in a puddle of water considering your inability to wrap to understand anything that isnât meticulously explained word for word and claim thatâs the only thing anyone is saying and I seriously canât help you. Nuance? i donât know her.
Whatever. Itâd be cool if everyone could be welcomed to prideâor at least people would realize that itâs a public event and that it costs zero dollars to consider ur surroundings before doing something and how considering surroundings =/= DONâT DO IT EVER!!! EVIL!! BAD!!!!!!! KISSING IS BAD!!! Thatâs all people are asking and apparently thatâs too fucking hard.Â
Why not you google image search, âcouple at prideâ or âleather at prideâ or âdykes on bikesâ or some other Pride-related terms, see the number of people who are both A) having a lot of fun being themselves and B) having fun in a way that personally doesnât appeal to you, and just…leave them alone and keep not going to Pride (which youâre already not doing according to your tags)? Right now, youâre hurting a large portion of the community with Bush-era homophobia and people have a right to tell you that they wish you would stop.
listen, iâm not a fan of pda either (it just makes me uncomfortable), but if youâre actually going to complain about pda (specifically GAY pda) at pride, then donât go to pride. lgbt+ people have fought long and hard for their right to love, and it is no oneâs place to tell us that we canât express that love at the biggest lgbt+ event of the year
The thing isâpeople arenât complaining about just âpdaââI saw the posts exclusionists were referring to. People were complaining about excessive pda, more specific than that, strangers making out/âsucking faceâ very very very close to them. Most people even said âmaking out so close that I am a part of the kissing against my willâ or some variation on that.Â
No one is saying âNO PDA AT PRIDE!!â people are saying âJust respect my personal boundariesâ. Every single person was encouraging PDA, but qualifying it by saying âkeep it respectable for a public eventâ.
I cannot stress enough the fact that literally no one was saying âno PDA at prideââlet alone complaining âspecifically about gay pdaâ. They were complaining about uncomfortable amounts of PDA at pride, specifically âsucking face on top of meâ and not a single person said or even implied that only gay pda made them uncomfortable.
We canât buy into their disingenuous bullshit guys. Exclusionists are intentionally misconstruing what people are saying to get an emotional response from you. It shouldnât be working.Â
Or we can make Pride the one event in the year in which LGBTQIA+ people donât have to suppress ourselves or conform to respectability politics?Â
Thereâs people telling us we canât be ourselves every day of the year and yes, that includes sexuality.
Thereâs been weird shit going on at Pride since before you and I were even born. If youâre uncomfortable with weird shit at Pride then donât go to Pride. Nobody is demanding that you hand in your LGBTQIA+ card if Pride makes you uncomfortable. I get uncomfortable with some things at Pride myself and Iâve been going since before I was in grade school.
I know you see a distinction between your own POV and the one youâre decrying but there honestly is less of one than you think. To use an analogy, @legsdemandias, suppose an anti were tell you that you should âkeep your fic respectful for a public website.â Said anti can argue all day that their meaning of respectful isnât hurting anyone because they know the boundary between respectful and disrespectful and no decent person would be caught in that boundary. But this isnât adequately communicated just by the loaded term ârespectfulâ and the anti is still trying to set a boundary that will hurt people that arenât doing anything wrong besides being different from other people.