Remember Pulse this June

grace-and-ace:

grace-and-ace:

As we celebrate this year’s Pride month, do not forget to remember the tragic Pulse Night Club shooting. Remember that it was POC who were targeted. Remember this as we continue to fight. I’ll be either attending or hosting a local memorial this year, and I strongly recommend others do the same, if it’s possible. 

Stay safe everyone. 

2018 and this is still very relevant.

lgbt-history-archive:

“As the gay movement expands and becomes more assimilated, people who are not so easily assimilated will feel marginalized. Their marginalization creates another round of resistance. It’s an inefficient and somewhat embarrassing process, but it’s also extremely invigorating and democratic.” – Jeffrey Escoffier, July 1994
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Picture: Sylvia Rivera leads the alternative Stonewall 25 march, New York City, June 26, 1994. Photo Š AP.
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For many in the gay, lesbian, and bisexual communities, the massive celebrations surrounding the 25th anniversary of Stonewall—culminating in the Stonewall 25 Parade on June 26, 1994, twenty-three years ago today—were a hard-earned opportunity to reflect on how far the gay community had come since 1969. For many others, however, Stonewall 25 was yet another example of the mainstream queer community’s myopic vision of “gay liberation.”
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A number of militant groups—including ACT UP, the Lesbian Avengers, Spirit of Stonewall (SOS), and Transgender Menace—voiced their frustrations with the official march, and a coalition formed.
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“Queers have been getting thrown out of things for years by straight people,“ SOS member Bill Dobbs said, “and now gay people are getting on their high horses and throwing some gay people out of the movement.”
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Most clearly excluded from the main events was the transgender community; Stonewall 25, for example, was officially a “Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Event” despite calls for inclusion of “Transgender” in the title. In response, and in recognition of her decades of tireless activism, Sylvia Rivera was asked to lead the alternative march.
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Most sources today incorrectly provide that Rivera was honored at Stonewall 25, implying that the official organization recognized her contributions to the movement. While participants in the alternative march gave Rivera the respect she earned, it is not the case that she was honored by Stonewall 25 itself. #HavePrideInHistory #Resist #Pride2017 (at Flatiron Building)

rush-keating:

I don’t get how someone can be against anti-shipping and also against weird shit at Pride.

“Write as much weird fic as you want and I will support you but don’t be weird IRL or you’re disrespectful and should stop.”

And now I know of at least THREE people who hold this contradictory position.

Your explicit kinky Reylo fic is squicking someone else out just as much as you are squicked out by makeout sessions at Pride. Just letting y’all know that.

legsdemandias:

rush-keating:

legsdemandias:

pansexual-flareon:

listen, i’m not a fan of pda either (it just makes me uncomfortable), but if you’re actually going to complain about pda (specifically GAY pda) at pride, then don’t go to pride. lgbt+ people have fought long and hard for their right to love, and it is no one’s place to tell us that we can’t express that love at the biggest lgbt+ event of the year

The thing is–people aren’t complaining about just “pda”–I saw the posts exclusionists were referring to. People were complaining about excessive pda, more specific than that, strangers making out/“sucking face” very very very close to them. Most people even said “making out so close that I am a part of the kissing against my will” or some variation on that. 

No one is saying “NO PDA AT PRIDE!!” people are saying “Just respect my personal boundaries”. Every single person was encouraging PDA, but qualifying it by saying “keep it respectable for a public event”.

I cannot stress enough the fact that literally no one was saying “no PDA at pride”–let alone complaining “specifically about gay pda”. They were complaining about uncomfortable amounts of PDA at pride, specifically “sucking face on top of me” and not a single person said or even implied that only gay pda made them uncomfortable.

We can’t buy into their disingenuous bullshit guys. Exclusionists are intentionally misconstruing what people are saying to get an emotional response from you. It shouldn’t be working. 

Or we can make Pride the one event in the year in which LGBTQIA+ people don’t have to suppress ourselves or conform to respectability politics? 

There’s people telling us we can’t be ourselves every day of the year and yes, that includes sexuality.

There’s been weird shit going on at Pride since before you and I were even born. If you’re uncomfortable with weird shit at Pride then don’t go to Pride. Nobody is demanding that you hand in your LGBTQIA+ card if Pride makes you uncomfortable. I get uncomfortable with some things at Pride myself and I’ve been going since before I was in grade school.

I know you see a distinction between your own POV and the one you’re decrying but there honestly is less of one than you think. To use an analogy, @legsdemandias, suppose an anti were tell you that you should “keep your fic respectful for a public website.” Said anti can argue all day that their meaning of respectful isn’t hurting anyone because they know the boundary between respectful and disrespectful and no decent person would be caught in that boundary. But this isn’t adequately communicated just by the loaded term “respectful” and the anti is still trying to set a boundary that will hurt people that aren’t doing anything wrong besides being different from other people.

Not to mention this whole argument is built on the idea that Pride isn’t weird and defiant of society’s conventions all on its own. Even in Western countries with strong legal protections for LGBTQIA+ people it still is. There were gay men who were attacked at Pride in Utah yesterday. Two years ago, someone was arrested for trying to bring guns into Pride in Los Angeles. Stop trying to police how people in the community act at Pride when it isn’t even safe for us to be at Pride yet.

Idk why y’all are like this but I’m pretty sure y’all could drown in a puddle of water considering your inability to wrap to understand anything that isn’t meticulously explained word for word and claim that’s the only thing anyone is saying and I seriously can’t help you. Nuance? i don’t know her.

Whatever. It’d be cool if everyone could be welcomed to pride–or at least people would realize that it’s a public event and that it costs zero dollars to consider ur surroundings before doing something and how considering surroundings =/= DON’T DO IT EVER!!! EVIL!! BAD!!!!!!! KISSING IS BAD!!! That’s all people are asking and apparently that’s too fucking hard. 

Why not you google image search, “couple at pride” or “leather at pride” or “dykes on bikes” or some other Pride-related terms, see the number of people who are both A) having a lot of fun being themselves and B) having fun in a way that personally doesn’t appeal to you, and just…leave them alone and keep not going to Pride (which you’re already not doing according to your tags)? Right now, you’re hurting a large portion of the community with Bush-era homophobia and people have a right to tell you that they wish you would stop.

legsdemandias:

pansexual-flareon:

listen, i’m not a fan of pda either (it just makes me uncomfortable), but if you’re actually going to complain about pda (specifically GAY pda) at pride, then don’t go to pride. lgbt+ people have fought long and hard for their right to love, and it is no one’s place to tell us that we can’t express that love at the biggest lgbt+ event of the year

The thing is–people aren’t complaining about just “pda”–I saw the posts exclusionists were referring to. People were complaining about excessive pda, more specific than that, strangers making out/“sucking face” very very very close to them. Most people even said “making out so close that I am a part of the kissing against my will” or some variation on that. 

No one is saying “NO PDA AT PRIDE!!” people are saying “Just respect my personal boundaries”. Every single person was encouraging PDA, but qualifying it by saying “keep it respectable for a public event”.

I cannot stress enough the fact that literally no one was saying “no PDA at pride”–let alone complaining “specifically about gay pda”. They were complaining about uncomfortable amounts of PDA at pride, specifically “sucking face on top of me” and not a single person said or even implied that only gay pda made them uncomfortable.

We can’t buy into their disingenuous bullshit guys. Exclusionists are intentionally misconstruing what people are saying to get an emotional response from you. It shouldn’t be working. 

Or we can make Pride the one event in the year in which LGBTQIA+ people don’t have to suppress ourselves or conform to respectability politics? 

There’s people telling us we can’t be ourselves every day of the year and yes, that includes sexuality.

There’s been weird shit going on at Pride since before you and I were even born. If you’re uncomfortable with weird shit at Pride then don’t go to Pride. Nobody is demanding that you hand in your LGBTQIA+ card if Pride makes you uncomfortable. I get uncomfortable with some things at Pride myself and I’ve been going since before I was in grade school.

I know you see a distinction between your own POV and the one you’re decrying but there honestly is less of one than you think. To use an analogy, @legsdemandias, suppose an anti were tell you that you should “keep your fic respectful for a public website.” Said anti can argue all day that their meaning of respectful isn’t hurting anyone because they know the boundary between respectful and disrespectful and no decent person would be caught in that boundary. But this isn’t adequately communicated just by the loaded term “respectful” and the anti is still trying to set a boundary that will hurt people that aren’t doing anything wrong besides being different from other people.

Not to mention this whole argument is built on the idea that Pride isn’t weird and defiant of society’s conventions all on its own. Even in Western countries with strong legal protections for LGBTQIA+ people it still is. There were gay men who were attacked at Pride in Utah yesterday. Two years ago, someone was arrested for trying to bring guns into Pride in Los Angeles. Stop trying to police how people in the community act at Pride when it isn’t even safe for us to be at Pride yet.