It’s the final battle, and urged on by Finn the Stormtroopers have rebelled (because that storyline *needs* to happen) and Poe’s shepherding them to safety like the warm, caring person he actually is.
But there’s a weapon, because there’s always a weapon in SW movies, and Supreme Leader Ren is about to use it. And so Finn and Rey have to take him down together, in an actually well choreographed fight with the Knights of Ren in an actual set that doesn’t look like the staging for bad experimental opera.
By the end, Finn has Kylo Ren at his mercy. And then it happens: Kylo cries – he begs Finn to understand that he never had a choice, that he didn’t mean to turn into this monster. And Finn, who has a soft heart inside of him despite all he’s been through, is taken in by it. He turns his back on Kylo for one second.
And then Kylo strikes, because of course he does. Only Rey’s been fooled once and she won’t be fooled twice – she won’t let the man she loves pay for making the same mistake she did. She intercepts Kylo’s blow and turns it back on him and Kylo Ren is killed at last, impaled on the light saber he used to kill his own father. And so we have a fitting end to the anti-redemption arc Kylo Ren started in The Force Awakens and continued, despite all its faults, in The Last Jedi.
And the force ghosts of Leia and Luke watch and smile as Finn and Rey walk off into their happy ending together.
LMAO. This would be the most generic thing JJ could do. And it would shit all over the Skywalker/Solo bloodlines (and it would render the OT pointless as there’s no joy in seeing anything the original trio accomplished because we’ll know their bloodline ends in tragedy). BTW, in response to your reply to me about Bruce/Selina, yes, Reylo is like Bruce/Selina. The enemies to lovers trope. Saying it’s like Bruce/Joker is idiotic as The Joker has zero conflict. Remember all those intimate convos between Batman and Joker where they gaze into each other’s eyes and plead with each other to switch sides? No, you don’t. Because it never happened. Remember all those articles post TDK about what great sexual tension Batman and Joker had? No. Yet even Vanity Fair wrote an article about Reylo’s intense chemistry. In addition to Bruce/Selina, Reylo is also a lot like Vegeta/Bulma from the Dragon Ball franchise. Oh, and I never said Nolan came up with BatCat. He’s just the first one to handle it that way and give them that sort of happily ever after despite all the terrible things Selina does to him. Clearly Kylo triggers you in some way that makes you fail to understand that he’s a fictional character and not a real person who can harm you in any way. And thank God you’re not a storyteller, you actually think the best friends to lovers trope that FinnRey would represent would be good for Star Wars. Best friends to lovers is the most generic, cliche, overused trope in Hollywood history. In total, I just find people like you to be sad. You want safe, generic, conservative storytelling. And it’s like you’ve never even seen the original trilogy. The 2nd movie in the OT ends with Vader cutting off his own son’s hand, making it seem like he’ll never redeem himself. Even Obi Wan tells Luke that Vader is lost to the dark side. Yet Vader does redeem himself because that is the point of Star Wars. A point you missed because you’re clearly not a real Star Wars fan. Let me guess, you didn’t even care about Star Wars till you watched TFA a few years back. Yeah. Blocked.
PS: And thinking Luke and Leia would be happy about their bloodline ending that way…. my god, it’s like you don’t even understand the franchise on even the most basic levels. Oh, and John and Daisy themselves root for Ben’s redemption. John in particular is a huge Kylo fan. He’s even said he hopes Kylo redeems himself and that Kylo is his favorite character. He’s even constantly taking pictures of himself with Kylo merchandise he owns. According to your logic, that means John loves a nazi.
Dude, I don’t know who you think I am, but we’ve never had a conversation about anything before and definitely not Batman, a subject about which I have literally no opinions.
Also I actually am a professional story teller and have been for more than two decades.
Oh, and I’m in my late forties, btw. I fell in love with the original trilogy after I saw them in the cinema when they first came out. I daresay I’ve seen them more times than you have.
All that aside, can I just say that hijacking someone else’s post in order to be extremely rude to them, then saying ‘blocked’ as if you’re the one who’s been offended AND THEN FORGETTING TO ACTUALLY BLOCK THEM is by far the funniest thing any of the many Reylos who’ve hopped onto my posts unasked has yet done.
A++ would recommend
interracial couple: *exists*
the joker in your mentions: ”this is safe generic conservative storytelling”
Yes, precisely. Plus I forgot to mention how much I love it when goyim lecture me on who I’m allowed to call a Nazi analog.
Abrams said that he saw the FO as a neo-Nazi analog. People can deny it all they want but that doesn’t mean he didn’t say it. That also doesn’t mean that it’s a knock on Boyega (or anyone else’s) morality to like an FO character. If so, I’d be worried about all those little kids with Darth Vader helmets running around. The Terran Empire in Star Trek Discovery is a fascism/Trumpist populism analog too and Empress Georgiou is still a beloved character. People are complicated and that’s why I wrote what I did about not assigning real world political beliefs to people solely based on the characters they like.
It’s the final battle, and urged on by Finn the Stormtroopers have rebelled (because that storyline *needs* to happen) and Poe’s shepherding them to safety like the warm, caring person he actually is.
But there’s a weapon, because there’s always a weapon in SW movies, and Supreme Leader Ren is about to use it. And so Finn and Rey have to take him down together, in an actually well choreographed fight with the Knights of Ren in an actual set that doesn’t look like the staging for bad experimental opera.
By the end, Finn has Kylo Ren at his mercy. And then it happens: Kylo cries – he begs Finn to understand that he never had a choice, that he didn’t mean to turn into this monster. And Finn, who has a soft heart inside of him despite all he’s been through, is taken in by it. He turns his back on Kylo for one second.
And then Kylo strikes, because of course he does. Only Rey’s been fooled once and she won’t be fooled twice – she won’t let the man she loves pay for making the same mistake she did. She intercepts Kylo’s blow and turns it back on him and Kylo Ren is killed at last, impaled on the light saber he used to kill his own father. And so we have a fitting end to the anti-redemption arc Kylo Ren started in The Force Awakens and continued, despite all its faults, in The Last Jedi.
And the force ghosts of Leia and Luke watch and smile as Finn and Rey walk off into their happy ending together.
LMAO. This would be the most generic thing JJ could do. And it would shit all over the Skywalker/Solo bloodlines (and it would render the OT pointless as there’s no joy in seeing anything the original trio accomplished because we’ll know their bloodline ends in tragedy). BTW, in response to your reply to me about Bruce/Selina, yes, Reylo is like Bruce/Selina. The enemies to lovers trope. Saying it’s like Bruce/Joker is idiotic as The Joker has zero conflict. Remember all those intimate convos between Batman and Joker where they gaze into each other’s eyes and plead with each other to switch sides? No, you don’t. Because it never happened. Remember all those articles post TDK about what great sexual tension Batman and Joker had? No. Yet even Vanity Fair wrote an article about Reylo’s intense chemistry. In addition to Bruce/Selina, Reylo is also a lot like Vegeta/Bulma from the Dragon Ball franchise. Oh, and I never said Nolan came up with BatCat. He’s just the first one to handle it that way and give them that sort of happily ever after despite all the terrible things Selina does to him. Clearly Kylo triggers you in some way that makes you fail to understand that he’s a fictional character and not a real person who can harm you in any way. And thank God you’re not a storyteller, you actually think the best friends to lovers trope that FinnRey would represent would be good for Star Wars. Best friends to lovers is the most generic, cliche, overused trope in Hollywood history. In total, I just find people like you to be sad. You want safe, generic, conservative storytelling. And it’s like you’ve never even seen the original trilogy. The 2nd movie in the OT ends with Vader cutting off his own son’s hand, making it seem like he’ll never redeem himself. Even Obi Wan tells Luke that Vader is lost to the dark side. Yet Vader does redeem himself because that is the point of Star Wars. A point you missed because you’re clearly not a real Star Wars fan. Let me guess, you didn’t even care about Star Wars till you watched TFA a few years back. Yeah. Blocked.
PS: And thinking Luke and Leia would be happy about their bloodline ending that way…. my god, it’s like you don’t even understand the franchise on even the most basic levels. Oh, and John and Daisy themselves root for Ben’s redemption. John in particular is a huge Kylo fan. He’s even said he hopes Kylo redeems himself and that Kylo is his favorite character. He’s even constantly taking pictures of himself with Kylo merchandise he owns. According to your logic, that means John loves a nazi.
Dude, I don’t know who you think I am, but we’ve never had a conversation about anything before and definitely not Batman, a subject about which I have literally no opinions.
Also I actually am a professional story teller and have been for more than two decades.
Oh, and I’m in my late forties, btw. I fell in love with the original trilogy after I saw them in the cinema when they first came out. I daresay I’ve seen them more times than you have.
All that aside, can I just say that hijacking someone else’s post in order to be extremely rude to them, then saying ‘blocked’ as if you’re the one who’s been offended AND THEN FORGETTING TO ACTUALLY BLOCK THEM is by far the funniest thing any of the many Reylos who’ve hopped onto my posts unasked has yet done.
A++ would recommend
interracial couple: *exists*
the joker in your mentions: ”this is safe generic conservative storytelling”
The Character Assassination of Luke Skywalker by the Coward Rian Johnson
Poe Dameron is Stupid Because I need Him to Be by the Coward Rian Johnson
Kylo Ren is is the Co-Protagonist Because Reasons by the Coward Rian Johnson
Rey Is Suddenly a Naïve, Bland, Unsympathetic Plot Device In a Feeble Attempt to Make The Audience Feel Sorry for Poor Kylo Ren Who Has Done Nothing Wrong In His Life, Ever by the Coward Rian Johnson
The Wasted Potential of Finn’s Character Arc by the Coward Rian Johnson
Rose is argumentative with Finn for no reason throughout their storyline because I can’t tell a story without ~~conflict~~ by the Coward Rian Johnson.
If I have to see one more god forsaken think piece on why Finn Rose or Poe are shitty characters, that doesn’t actively dissect why it’s the SHITTY INCONSISTENT WRITING that made their appearances in TLJ fucking awful and hard to watch, and not the actors or their actual established characters I’m going to fucking Wreck Something.
If your criticism about the last jedi is about their characters being terrible and it’s not about how ITS BECAUSE THEY WERE SIDELINED AND TURNED INTO PLOT DEVICES then fun fact. Ur uh, probably not thinking abt the root of the problem.
Be quiet, you intolerable clickbait thots and just use some actual critical thinking skills for once.
The Star Wars Wiki says, “While C-3PO underwent a memory wipe, R2-D2 was allowed to preserve his memories.” And I am delighted, because 1) I was pretty sure this was the case, but couldn’t remember exactly (R2 is a conniving sneak and I was pretty sure it wouldn’t have worked even if anyone had been foolish enough to try), and 2) this means one of my favorite Star Wars headcanons is actually canon.
It means that during that one scene in Empire Strikes Back, these two assholes know EXACTLY who the other one is.
You are decorated war veterans, you absolute trolls.
Yoda had 20 plus years to prep for this moment and this is probably what he picked on like the second day
Yoda had 20 plus years to prep for this moment and this is probably what he picked on like the second day <- Holy shit, this is the truest thing I’ve ever read. That is absolutely what he did.
Also, I have a couple of things I want to clarify on this post.
Because of the Luke and R2 exchange right before they land on Dagobah, when Luke is explaining that they’re going to find Yoda, an old Jedi Master, and R2 appears to be like, “whomst??” I now hold the headcanon that while R2 knew who Yoda was, he didn’t actually know Yoda’s name. So when they got down to Dagobah, R2 was absolutely like, “OH SHIT, IT’S YOU. HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL ALIVE, GIVE ME BACK THE FLASHLIGHT, WHY DOES NO LISTEN TO ME, BACK OFF YOU GREEN SOCK, I’LL FINISH THE JOB MYSELF, I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING AROUND HERE.”
And since droid rights are absolute shit, for R2, when I say “decorated war veteran”, I’m not referring to medals. (Although Anakin absolutely made medals for his droid too, because R2 was there and did, like, ALL the work.) I’m referring to arrest warrants.
Most of R2’s memory is called The Shit List (With Receipts), with file folders on some of the galaxy’s most notorious and significant figures. Yoda has three folders. Anakin/Vader has five. So does Obi-Wan. The person with the most folders is Threepio (Designation: Useless Husband), bc R2 has never really let an argument go in his life.
The only person who doesn’t have a shit list is BB-8, who has Never Done A Blessed Thing Wrong In Her Life. (R2 can and will fight you.)
This is someone absolutely unwilling to like actually think critically about why Finn turns against the First Order and keeps saying that it doesn’t make sense, that Finn should do x instead, that killing should come natural to him. That it’s “bad writing” to have Finn “decide to be good for no reason”.
The very fact that this person CONTINUOUSLY insists that it doesn’t make sense for Finn to be good/decide to be good is like… beyond infuriating to me. I want to be all nice and help nudge people in the direction of good analysis and whatnot, but this purposeful crap is a hard limit for me.
Like this person isn’t even actually seeing Finn as Finn. Never have, never will. They’re not interested in like… trying to approach the character differently. They keep trying to talk about such an important character that they have no interest in actually analyzing responsibly and man… I’m uninterested in that kind of hardheaded nonsense.
Anyone who believes that the village on Jakku was “harboring a terrorist” is beyond reason. The argument that the villagers were threatening the FO because they tried to defend themselves is pure fascist apologia.
To think that JJ Abrams wrote that scene, where a Nazi parallel invades a village of people who belonged to a religion they wanted to eradicate, disarmed the ones who fought back, and slaughtered them, including the children, with any intention of making the FO look like the victims, is absolutely stomach-churning. As is the notion that Finn should have stayed loyal to the FO and not fought back himself.
And we’re supposed to completely divorce attitudes like this from reality? George Lucas wrote allegories – Nixon, Vietnam, Bush. Abrams wrote allegories that were clearly more directly about the Nazis, down to a nearly shot-for-shot reference to Triumph of the Will that was supposed to be horrifying. And yet here we are, fans are more horrified by Finn not following the FO.
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